BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. John Kelly has some good information. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. Not sure why that is. Its as if she took the grief of a whole town under her breast and pledged to suffer for them all, Jesus-like. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 4) He was married many years prior. The few times Ive brought him up myself (this is really on Reddit) I have been ripped apart for my apparent stupidity. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. They think he did it. Here are hosts Andrew Iden and Barbara MacDonald, with more on what to expect over the course of the. Indeed, he has been questioned and he is cooperating fully with the investigation. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. Please help me out here. He had been there that morning too. Crime. Answers to questions about my credibility. Its a farce! Interesting. Did he sleep? How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? Someone driving from Laporte to either of these places would very likely pass through Kingsbury on a normal trek not involving abduction and murder. Cops have told us more than they told any of those guardians. We believe that his truck got towed later on when his wife never showed up with the keys, that Mr. X searched Ron Logans land that evening with two other men, and that he left his truck sitting in that same spot for 18 hours until the next day when the bodies were found. You made a mistake my friend. Instant person of interest. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. Novella Nedeff, a clinical associate professor at Indiana University's McKinney School of Law, said sealing court records after a defendant is in custody is unprecedented to her, and speculated. Five years later, what became known as the "Delphi Murders . Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers. The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. Delphi residents and those closely following the case were stunned when, on April 22, 2019, the Indiana State Police announced the case was moving in a "new direction." Law enforcement released a very brief video clip of the main suspect walking along the bridge, and a revamped version of the audio clip released in 2017 that said, "Guys . How do they know he sent audio/video to one of the girls phones? It said she was coming to deliver the keys. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? One daughter, estranged. People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. Im a real nice guy, I treat my commenters well, and Im basically this mild-mannered, unassuming, intellectual, professor type. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. That can only mean one thing. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! Im getting, at the home!. Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. She described his eyes as dark and evil. But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. Delphi murders update: Richard Allen, Delphi murder suspect, asks for public defender Law enforcement officials have so far declined to answer those questions, repeating they need to. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. (WISH) More than five years have passed since the murders of two young girls in a small Indiana town. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. The only places he differs is where he thinks that the police are wrong! Im a retired homicide detective I know what Im talking about. Hasnt he suffered enough? Abby may have been naked below the waist. Were their clothes found with the bodies at the crime scene? We can look into any case we want! Im sure his wife Mrs. X knows or suspects what he has done but she wont roll overKeep up the great work and hopefully they get this SOB! I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. The shooting was believed to have happened on Saturday, Feb. 25, between 2 p.m. and 3:30 p.m. northeast of Jasper in Dubois County. Why dont you do a show on our theories. What? The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. Back to the POI, in February 2017, he lived next door to the cemetery which makes his actions and ruse around his truck & keys even more suspicious, if that is possible. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. You say that you dont even have a suspect, and youre waiting on that one tip to come in, but youre worried about double jeopardy? Answers to questions about my credibility. However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. We dont do that on here and never have. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. not sure I agree . Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? Who are you friends with. As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. Its a dead end. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. Neither one can possibly be BG. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams were best friends who went everywhere together. If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. There are signatures on the document. Of course Ron Logan didnt do it. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors - mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. 43 seconds of audio. There is a lot of controversy about that but it does appear that you can hear on the audio, Is that creepy guy still following us?. If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale. Im not sure if its better that way or not. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. He is not connected to this case in any way, but he helped provide context into how police connected a bullet found at the murder scene to the suspect in this case. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. Bottom line is our theories now are dramatically more accurate than the 85% error rate we had earlier. Here is a previous episode on the case. No one else reacted that way. The conviction is expunged. Because it doesnt matter whether I think hes guilty or not. We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! Unverified and Probably Not True. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. EXCLUSIVE: Murdered Delphi teens were intended victims of 'botched' child sex kidnap plot, cops believe - as investigators dig up DEAD CAT to match hairs found on girls to alleged killer's pet. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. These idiot cops. Investigators are searching for the killer using their biggest clue: a recording of his voice from one of the victims' phones ordering the girls Down the Hill. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. He raped women, not young teenage girls. Oh, one more thing, Jim. Police found the girls lifeless bodies a short distance from the bridge the following day, near a trail close to the bridge. And I cant wait to see what they get from RL about Mr. X. A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. It was all over by 3:30. Then again, what if it wasnt? No. (Indiana State Police) Authorities in Delphi, Indiana, have issued a fresh plea for information about a fake social media profile they suspect was used to lure two teenage girls to their deaths. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. The Murder Sheet podcast published the affidavit filed by a FBI agent asking for a warrant to search. I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. He took it with him in some sort of hunting pack? Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. And Im sure that the Delphi police could say the same thing. Found Deceased IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #162. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. Now, I have denied knowing something that I actually knew, but that was to protect the integrity of an investigation. Possibly works with kids. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. Its $20. Good advice. Police say they also discovered an unspent round from a gun near the girls bodies. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots? We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. He was living in the Evansdale area at the time. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. - The murders of Abby Williams and Libby German have remained unsolved since that fateful day in February 2017, when the girls went for a walk on the historic trails of Delphi and never came. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! This KAK guy simply got messed up in sending sexual videos to underage teenage girls and collecting the same from them. In February 2017, they were about halfway through the eighth . I read your recent blogs about the Delphi murders, and you have a ton of info. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. Much more on that below. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. About eight days after the murders, this man shoots and kills his 16 year old live-in girlfriend while allegedly cleaning his firearm. One person wins and everyone else loses. My ideas, of course, are just speculative like those put forth by others. We suppose if was listening to a police scanner, he could have known that early, but whats the likelihood of Mr. X listening to a police scanner between 5:30-6:30 PM on the day of the crime? You dont have to join. Thats because they havent been told shit. At 13 and 14 the cycles are messed up bad. Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? The girls hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. Its buried under settlement and underbrush. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. 14) For more, see video, though this is the gist of it. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. Is he into numerology? Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum. Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. I think cycles finally straighten out at age 15. Cookie Notice One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. 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